Comments on: EU energy chief labels new climate targets “stupid” https://www.climatechangenews.com/2014/01/29/eu-energy-chief-labels-new-climate-targets-stupid/ Climate change news, analysis, commentary, video and podcasts focused on developments in global climate politics Wed, 05 Feb 2014 18:17:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Nico https://www.climatechangenews.com/2014/01/29/eu-energy-chief-labels-new-climate-targets-stupid/#comment-1176 Wed, 05 Feb 2014 18:17:00 +0000 http://www.rtcc.org/?p=15345#comment-1176 He didn’t say climate targets were stupid. He said the EU going it alone without action from other countries is “arrogant or stupid”. He’s certainly skeptical of 40% but your headline is misleading.

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By: FatBastage72 https://www.climatechangenews.com/2014/01/29/eu-energy-chief-labels-new-climate-targets-stupid/#comment-1168 Tue, 04 Feb 2014 14:45:00 +0000 http://www.rtcc.org/?p=15345#comment-1168 In reply to PG_Bill.

Bill, you could show the sort of moral leadership Connie Headguard dreams the EU (in receivership) can exercise by disowning your worldly possessions (internet connected PC included), turning your back on the comforts of civilised life and adopting a ‘low footprint’ feral existence somewhere properly wild. Show your commitment to the cause by taking your kids with you.
Greenland is still mostly wild, it’s one of the poster children the cause warns us is being destroyed and you’d be conveniently located to join the unwashed minions at future ‘no-arctic drilling’ protests.
If you’re unprepared to do that, but are prepared to waste energy running a PC for the purpose of moaning about reducing energy availability by 40% then I’m afraid you’re talking out of your greenhouse gas vent old son.

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By: archaeopteryxgr https://www.climatechangenews.com/2014/01/29/eu-energy-chief-labels-new-climate-targets-stupid/#comment-1156 Fri, 31 Jan 2014 05:12:00 +0000 http://www.rtcc.org/?p=15345#comment-1156 The only way to stop emissions is to stop economic activity (or life for that matter). The “unreliables” garbage has proven to have nothing to do with emissions or fuel savings. Even nukes may not really be reducing emissions. Common sense and basic economics do not need bureaucratic soviet-style straightjackets. Anyone wanting to get emissions down can go jump off a cliff and spare the rest of us.

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By: Robin_Guenier https://www.climatechangenews.com/2014/01/29/eu-energy-chief-labels-new-climate-targets-stupid/#comment-1155 Thu, 30 Jan 2014 21:57:00 +0000 http://www.rtcc.org/?p=15345#comment-1155 In reply to PG_Bill.

What makes you think, PG_Bill, that whatever the EU (representing barely 10% of global emissions) might do would make any serious difference? The so-called “developing economies” (65% of emissions) made it clear at the UN conference at Warsaw last November that they had no intention of signing up to binding cuts. Nor will the USA (14%). Nor, it seems, will Canada, Japan, Russia and probably Australia (in total 10%). In practice, there’s only the EU left.

Or do you take the Hedegaard line that the EU is exercising leadership to the rest of the world? But these days the rest of the world isn’t very interested in what the EU may or may not do. To pretend otherwise is, I fear, embarrassing, patronising, neo-colonial, out-dated “White Man’s burden” nonsense. Sad really.

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By: PG_Bill https://www.climatechangenews.com/2014/01/29/eu-energy-chief-labels-new-climate-targets-stupid/#comment-1149 Wed, 29 Jan 2014 14:07:00 +0000 http://www.rtcc.org/?p=15345#comment-1149 The thing that is stupid is not doing everything we can to get emissions down before disaster becomes inevitable (if it isn’t already). 40% is not nearly enough and trying to water it down further is idiocy

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